Once you and your professional shake hands and write a contract that's when they come in and start the job. How did you retained the natural color of the wood? You can use Poloplaz Pearl sealer with Endure or Pallmann's Pall-x white seal and Pall-x Pure. Training costs money. There are some lap lines on the floors from the sealer. Or Bona Traffic + their stain line. It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. I worry that two coats might look too light, but with one coat, I still see some yellow coming through (my sample has the Traffic HD matte though, not satin). They don't turn orangebut they do throw a strong YELLOW hue onto the floors. The picture I attached is with one coat of Bona Mega using no stain. Ours is from Norway. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. Applying Bona NordicSeal to Your Hardwood Floors The least porous Quartzites are actually called crystalline Quartzites. Also, the guy said they usually apply the sealer one day, then one or two finish coats the next day (running into the 3rd day depending on how it dries). They didnt have classic to sample, but the sand/finish guy said it would be closer to the Natural than IntenSeal. @tkgriff which did you go with and do you like? Mega is the 'cheap' level of the Bona line-up. My kitchen is the opposite of yours with white cabinets and gray countertops and I like the way my natural white oak floors warm it up. Quartzite is a metamorphic stone.. Sandstone converts to Quartzite from extreme heat and pressure. I know one of the Milesi products in the natural effects side does contain a UV filter. I found a highly recommended company that has experience with placing wood floors in the most humid environments Plenty of high-end homes have wood floors here so someone has to do it & do it well- just find "that" guy! WebSome 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. I will have to follow up. I hope these help someone! The 'raw' look is a special look. You have a special floor. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. D Debra Travis Red Oak Hardwood Floors Installing Hardwood Floors Natural Wood Flooring Decoration We refinishing the floor and apply natural seal from bona and top coat bona mega one satin D We have decided to go with a mix of white and light wood for the cabinets. Never make color selections off a computer screen or printed brochure. Milesi Natural 2k? @Elaine Gauthier Art Did you find any solution or larger cabinet maker that has the white oak? We tried a few Duraseal stains on samples and none of them were right. My husband and I had 5" white oak floors installed and we are like the look of one coat of Bona Nordic Seal and two coats of satin water based polyurethane on our floors. Bona Okay we have decided to go with Bona Traffic HD in extra matte! So it looks like I must know what product I am likely to use before I can even find a pro.So I am experimenting on my own, trying to narrow down the options. I love the natural, light color of the hardwood. I'm actually impressed he is putting up with me and my ideas - lol. If, youre looking for a small amount. From all Ive read, it seems Bona Traffic HD is the way to go on the finish coats. Founded in 1919, Bona offers products for most premium floor surfaces including All the questions and answers have been helpful to me when I have come looking, so I wanted to post photos from today that will possibly help others choose. Beyond The Grain Custom Design, Toms River, NJ (2023) Get ready for a LONG story! I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. I guess it's my monitor because I don't see the pink undertone in the Houzz photo you last posted. The Corian fabricator came back and polished them just like new. It still a major upgrade from Bona MEGa. My question to tcrp6566 is did you use a sealer first? I used no filter on the photos, on an overcast morning from different angles. I put any Quartzite that I have not carried before through vigorous testing before I sell it to my customers as a Quartzite. Be warned the wood and multiple coats of Bona products really add up $$$$. sherwin williams duraseal After sanding I loved the natural look of the wood including the knots and imperfections. The advanced technology formula provides speed and high performance for hardwood floor finishing professionals. When he did the sample with a white stain (Duraseal) and my red oak floor turned pink, I stopped the work and started searching for a new guy. Hard to believe contractors would use your countertops as work bench! Working Bona Traffic is 10x harder than off the shelf stuff. I prefer to see 3 coats of the finishbut the Bona sealants are designed to be 'film building' sealants so they will add to the performance. Compare that to the 2 MINUTES you have with Bona! Don't disagree with you at all. 1 coat of nordic seal will subtly lighten the color of white oak, while 2 coats of nordic seal will make it significantly lighter. True Quartzite is very dense and many are not prone to staining. Weve been in the house with our two pups a little over a year now and the floors are holding up - so far, so good. The trick is to A) find the professional trained in water based finishes and B) keep the sheen to satin or matte. @mtpo We are also considering the Bona nordic seal on white oak. It will not etch like Marble, but has a marble like appearance. Sorry but that isn't the way things are done in the building industry. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. This photo Nordic is on the top and Natural is on the bottom. I read on the Bona website (and others) that TrafficHD coverage was 350-400sf/gal. is the only way to go. ISO something similar to Hallmark Alta Vista "Malibu" in urethane, Questions about chemicals in vinyl install - foul odor, health probs. Why would you use Bona Nordic Seal (Bona productobviously) and then go with LOBA??? These posts priceless. It will 'deepen' the colour you see (ie. They don't like doing it - because they go through SOOO many screening discs (I've heard of more than 12 discs being used in one home). Try this color if you want a darker shade. NaturalSeal adds the LEAST amount of 'colour' (either white or yellowdoesn't matter) of all the sealants in the Bona line up. The more coats you apply, the lighter it becomes. Granite is an igneous rock also formed from extreme heat and pressure. photos of Bona Nordic and Bona Natural on white oak We did one coat of Bona natural seal and two coats of Bona HD extra matte on white oak. If you want a bit of "yellow depth" to the floor, then work with an oil modified. Did you put your deposit down on a charge card? And dont go forward unless they are willing to give you samples with ALL the finished coats. A gallon of Varathane = $80 (Home Depot). Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Please help on base, crown, window, door molding size decision. Anyway, good luck. 2 coats of Nordic seal & 2 coats of traffic HD ? My suggestion is to figure out what type of 'cleaning' person you are. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? Give it a light sanding after it dries with 220 or 240 grit sandpaper. That's like painting a master piece with 10 minutes on the clock. Please contact us if we can be of further help. Past techniques to achieve a natural floor look relied on harsh chemicals like bleach, two-part peroxide-based strippers or oxalic acid. I forgot to take a photo of the hand made air vent the installers made for the floor vent. Thank you. Im glad we didnt go darker. The use of water based is VASTLY different from oil based. I cannot find any locally. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. One other question. wipe down a 1ft x 1ft section with a lightly water damp cloth to see what I mean). WebApplication of the sealer will alter the chemical structure of the porous sandstone or natural stone providing a excellent water repellent and stain resistant surface. They held up to move in with no major scratches. Do you know if the Milesi you ordered includes sealer to stop tannin bleed and a UV filter? Great photos and beautiful floors! The edge is not as nicely finished as the Corian. We just installed 5 white oak throughout our home. Photos would be helpful. I am trying to figure out the same for my rift oak cabinets. Here are some of my samples. It is less than $0.85/sf. In this angle Nordic is on the right and Natural is on the left. There's nothing wrong with making a minor mistake, nor with owning up to it. 1 coat per day, buffing every coat for extra smoothness. Three teenagers, a dog. That leave NaturalSeal, ClassicSeal and IntenSeal. Bona is designed to be 'hot coated' that is to say it does BEST when coat 1 and coat 2 (like sealant and then 1st coat of finish) come in quick succession (less than 24 hours but nothing less than the 'minimum time between coats'). Someone else on here suggested Durasupreme. I checked Durasupreme and they have white oak but not in the shade we like. You should look it up. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? !Are you happy with the Satin? The white background wasnt a true white but it wasnt bad and the marbling was pretty. Held off on final coat until project finished.. which will be done in a few days. Has anyone applied the Bona Nordic and HD to white oak stair partsnewel posts/rails ? Are light white oak wire brushed floors hard to keep clean? Another thread I found talks about Rubio mono coat. I am hoping this Sherwin Williams product won't yellow over time. Attached is a photo of the hardwood unfinished without stain. Thanks. Bona Craft oil 2K oiled floor in COLOR Air and dogs. He will then send the sample to a Sherwin Williams Product Finishes Store and they will match the sample. Any ideas on stain/stain combos and sealants to make it happen? Not quite "honey oak" but not far from it. They were great to work with. Will Bona Mega keep the wood color natural and avoid yellowing over time? Look out for inexperience. 1,303 views Oct 22, 2020 We originally sanded this floor almost 20 years ago, this time the customer wanted a much lighter color. The wood is from Cochrans Lumber in Berryville, VA. Cochrans offers this wood in different thicknesses and grades which also impacts the price. Thank you for posting a picture! You want someone fully trained in the art of the 2-component (2K) water based system. Also what do you mean by toned oak? Bona DriFast Stains are compatible with all Bona finishing systems, including waterborne. I have read through almost every post here looking to see how to get the most natural finish without yellowing. The cabinets and a new layout transform a once-dark New Jersey kitchen into a light and bright space, Its typically the primary color in gardens. How are you liking it so far? Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? I wasnt wild about any of the patterns. I do love the natural color. I answered them in order. Je peux rejeter les cookies non essentiels en cliquant sur Grer mes prfrences . The sand/finish guys sampled natural seal, amber seal and IntenSeal. Yes, Trump2 I agree. We will be going with something close to that. Their attention to detail. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. Which is why I posted asking for people's experiences today, but I never received any replies. It was one coat of seal. The info is helpful and Im discerning enough to sort out immature comments. For those asking to see Intense Seal on white oak. Yours looks so light and bright. I originally wanted Corian in the kitchen with a stainless area (Near the cooktop) because they withstand abuse, can be refinished and are hygenic. Also did the installer abrade between the seal & finish coats? Maybe instead of wanting it natural, I really wanted it lighter rather than a medium to darker stain. I absolutely love the floors. ! But I miss a slightly shiny floor. Choosing finish on white oak floor. Otherwise time will turn the white oak yellow regardless of how it looks when freshly finished. :), @bowmeister67 and @widdy23 I used exactly what bowmeister said , 1 coat of Bona Nordic seal and 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. Houzz utilise des cookies et d'autres technologies de suivi similaires pour personnaliser mon exprience utilisateur, me proposer du contenu pertinent et amliorer ses produits et services. Thank you, I don't know the specific name of it. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. This is a platform for people to help one another. But was the Bona Traffic absolutely clear? I think the choice will be between the Natural and the Classic Seal. @J Sk did you use natural sealer or natural stain? But some of the most popular recent kitchens on Houzz tell a different story, Whether light and breezy or rich and moody, these wood-rich kitchens might make you rethink painted cabinets, If you favor a little color in your kitchen, look to these spaces that run the gamut from light to dark, See how the most popular kitchen cabinet color effortlessly supports a variety of inviting design features, Tired of white? But, my husband and I are closer in agreement. They make their final grit-pass and then they will place the colour samples down with a coat of finish. new and it will be white oak common # 1. Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. Any help appreciated! Yours in Floors Zach Liske Floor Huggers. Alternative to Bona NaturalSeal, Classic or Nordic on white oak Each to their own. Our contractor informed me that it is significantly more expensive, $2500 more expensive. The tub area is ok -but Im glad I didnt get it in the kitchen. Thank you SJ McCarthy for your expertise and explanation of time between coats, drying time and curing time. Based on the research I've done, Nordic Seal has a tendency to show white streaks on the floor. Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? I should add that I planned to use Bona Traffic HD finish as well since I read how durable it is and how it goes on clear without yellowing the wood. Apply and wipe off excess. There are MANY people who do NOT know they are 'clean-shiny' people until they purchase matte floors. We are looking for the same - any update on what you ended up using? White Think about going stylishly dark instead, The international shows designers bring the focus back to the craftsmanship and luxurious materials of the 1920s, See why an engineered wood floor could be your best choice (and no one will know but you), Gleaming wood floors are a thing of beauty. We went with the Bona Nordic and Traffic HD. @mtpo - Your floors look BEAUTIFUL, thank you for sharing the pics, I can't wait to see the final product. Although, it can be used as a stand alone sealer. Ryan Danielson and Angela Watkins did either of you find a solution to achieve the natural white oak finish you were looking for? Finalize your sanding with 150 grit and apply the first coat. In a Glass Darkly - Project Gutenberg Australia I bought a cleaner made for the finish (similar to m quartz) and touch up is easy if needed. Classic seal gave a deeper color but I found it to be too yellow. I knew this was IT. 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We sell stone, fabricate and install countertops so we're there every step of the way which keeps me up to date on pretty much every stone that is used today. P.S. According to WFB's 2020 State of the Industry Contractor Survey Report, in 2019 red oak made up 48% of installed species and white oak made up 32% Wow sounds beautiful! I'm going to guess that's what the rep was trying to explain Of course your refinsher will apply a sample of EACH sealer on your freshly sanded floors so that you can DECIDE on the one you like (and will include a coat of the HD finish in the gloss level you have chosen.so that you can be 100% SURE of what you are choosing). This is Bona Natural Seal and Bona Nordic Seal on sanded white oak. NordicSealis an easy to use water-based sealer from Bonawhich you can use it to achieve this popular whitewashed look. The samples are done AFTER you hire the professional but BEFORE you put down the stain! One coat Bona Natural Seal A very slight natural stain similar to the white oak color of our floors. and I wish we had another layer of protection. That makes SOOOO much sense. The coating should not come up. Im trying to stay with the natural look. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. The good news is the installer will have learned his lesson: do NOT under bid a project just to win it. We are having the same dilemma with our cabinets. How to protect the wood enough for kitchen cabinet use but 1. I dont want to hide the clerestory windows with coverings and dont like the strings that show with bottom-up shades (maybe OK for the bedrooms). This is part and parcel of your payment. The wood Is white oak from Norway (from Cochrans in Virginia). Fortunately, the installer is sending them back to the lumberyard to be replaced. Can you share the color? (I didnt think about this before adding the bookcases.) Make sure your floor guys are real professionals and have experience using Bona. NordicSeal is going to give you a white frosting. Your floors are as important as your roof. The main thing to worry about when it comes to Quartzite is if it is actually a true Quartzite. Ahhhh. However, I think the maintenance is much harder than what I previously had - natural red oak with a higher sheen. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. I read some really old posts here that say stay away from the Nordic. Bona Naturale will also do this. ), Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. Had my red oak floors done in weathered oak and they are still simply too pink. Look forward to more pictures. The NaturalSeal will offer the closest to the 'raw look' you are after. My builder said hed work with them even though he never had before and I had several conversations with them. Also hope this helps .. colors hard to see on monitor, I tested classic seal, white stain and Nordic seal as well. How much should I expect the Traffic HD to change the color? The coating should not come up. I'm thinking of using HI-MACS LG Hausys solid surface countertops, which I think is similar to Corian. Source: elsesun.com. DH wants to just go with light maple cabinets and I am tempted. Bona nordicseal is greenguard certified for indoor air quality. I would have loved to find a simpler, cheaper, regular old stain, but they just don't give me the same look I'm trying to achieve. Every client after that training will pay extra for his/her expertise. I do have a lot of experience with these stones because I own a Granite, Quartz and Quartzite company. Do you have high ceilings ? WebMy new white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. I did call Bona and they assured me that none of the 3 sealers would add "yellow" or "amber" to my floors - but thought I'd also ask here. will slightly darken the floors and sort of intensify the variation (the sample boards almost looked wet to me). And it is taking me some time to get used to a matte floor. Thanks so much! Show me your white oak floors w duraseal country white or Bona white! Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. The matte helps scratches blend. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. Make sure you use a PROFESSIONAL who is TRAINED in water based applications. Not change the raw color much, 2. I could also put hot pots on the stainless. The refinisher used the 'trendy' finish that s/he THOUGHT you wanted to see. @tkgriff Thanks for sharing the photos. They achieve 95% FULL CURE after 5 days. did you have a contract or at least an email stating you wanted white oak? Thanks so much in advance!! Thank you. Blue tape is where some contractors messed things up. Getting gloomy from cool gray? It is not the homeowner's fault that the job was bid too low (but they did accept the bid)but it is now the homeowner's experience (part of the decision process of taking the low bid) to live through a full sand and refinish of a brand new floor. Being able to apply multiple coats in a day, depends on the square footage of the project. @Ashley I just want to lay down on my floors and HUG them!! For a house your size and a $50k budget. How 'cheap' do you want to go with something that important? In real life, they dont have as much brown as in the photo. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. You only need an inch. Do you know if Duraseal is found in home stores? Snowy cabinets and walls speak to a certain elegance, while marble counters whisper of luxury, Give your joints a break while you're standing at the stove, with these resilient and beautiful materials for kitchen floors, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, 7 Kitchen Flooring Materials to Boost Your Cooking Comfort. Web108K views 6 years ago. Just just had solid white oak #2 flooring installed in my den. There is no haze and the floors look very pretty, natural in color with a light sheen. qhhsubiquity.com Informacin detallada del sitio web y la I also have some design software that may help with your need. I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. I hope some of this information is helpful. @widdy23 Seems like everything is taking longer than expected. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. All of their materials will have to be paid for (as part of your contract), but it can be done. They were super rich! WebIt was natural that he should seek an education in that city and from that institution, for both were allied to him by ties of no ordinary significance. It has been a nightmare trying to find this look in my area. The finish will look different if you start with different white oak. It sounds like this does a really good job at what we are both after. I just got samples and have found mixing the white with mist gives almost an exact color for unfinished white oak. WebWhite oak refinish- Bona NaturalSeal. If you said you wanted the look of 'raw wood' then matte is what they would have brought. The coating should not come up. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. Mega turns yellow. . It was so clean, perfect match for my cabinets, so WHITE (no yellow, gray or beige cast). It didnt seem to show the variations in the wood, light to dark, etc, grain, etc. It has come out very well. What color are your cabinets and what color Corian did you go with? @mtpo did you ever post final pictures of your floor? Just my 2 cents worth but typically, OAK flooring will shrink/expand ACROSS the grain it's usually pretty stable end to end, as with most hardwood species. Obviously flooring isnt my specialty, but it is yours. Or is Minwax and Duraseal the same thing? professional finishes are sold in gallons only. Web$55.00 Mainstays Farmhouse Oversized Floral Cream Area Rug, 7x10 for sale in Murray, UT on KSL Classifieds. It honestly looks just like our white oak (unstained, natural) - I wish I could leave it without sealer etc. Floors are already sitting in the new house acclimating and I know that I am not cut out for the oil finish.). They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. They apply the product too thin and it sets up quicker than recommended. More great information. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? I have found some great inspirational pictures. These people end up crying themselves to sleep because they HATE their floors (and the massive price tag they just paid for). You are looking at putting the cart before the horse. Some of us dont have either the budget or access to a multitude of cabinet makers so trying to work with them on getting the desired finish. A friend of mine had her red oak floors sanded and bleached to get the pink out and then sealed them. For the finish, use a water-based product, not an oil-based product which can yellow from sun exposure over time. Thanks. It offers a bigger margin of profit. Never to be heard from again. How should I adjust these home plans to save $ or improve the layout. Heres how to keep them that way, Let the sunshine in. Originally, I had declared never to Quartz after reading peoples complaints about chipping and cracks. Classic seall will add more tan/yellow. Different painters proposing different solutions to calcimine ceiling. It was not supportive or helpful. (It looks a little pink on my IPad - its not in real life.
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