The splines on this one are well worn also but not near as bad. Pull the front boot back and, protecting the housing with something soft, use a flat screwdriver to The joint was seized solid on my bike due to water infiltrating the swing arm somehow. and unless you own several motorcycles, will probably be sufficient for a lifetime supply. Getting the spline to go back in a little tricky. These are the splines that fail. At the same time I will lubricate the splines with (Guard dog ), a well recognised The rear drive splines look as good as new. Another example of what could happen if these parts are not maintained. I have personally changed 6 drives to VL1500 or VS1400 drives and NONE of them had sufficient lube (ranging from 2005 to 2010 C50 and M50). Ends 8/31. Discussion Starter #1 Mar 17, 2019. With BMW and others re-labeling Mobile synth products, my bet this is the same story with Yamahas rear pumpkin magic juice they sell for $38 a pint. You can read into the TSM threads on the problems with some 07 GT500s that were built w/o the spline lube and have had issues. This is Starship01s clutch hub, the part It went in, but stubborn! What type of grease do I need to use? And anyway the BMW splines that have caused issues going back to airhead days are the transmission input And alignment procedure by SPIDER . The lubing of the splines is a carry-over from the 1100s and the 1150 boxers, where they had some very serious issues with spline mechanical failures, and without getting into the details, the solution to avoid those failures was to regularly lube the splines. Dexron 6 is the only acceptable lubricant for the rear slip splines on 4x4. Discussion Starter #1 Feb 2, 2012. Once all the splines are gone the drive shaft will just spin without budging the rear wheel. ! Be sure to clean and regrease the hub splines too! 11; Next. If its 2 wheel drive, GM 19257121. Followed the the ever professional guide from Manyakus. Also, if you're removing the front spline, it has a circlip. Below is a photo of a rear drive output spline, showing only modest spline wear. Go. It involves pushing the grease seal off the end of the coupler in order to access a snapring which is removed in order to pull the driveshaft out of the drive coupler. Take a good look at the o-ring on the final drive spline. And I seriously urge everyone to check it out the first Joined Sep 4, 2015 Messages 91 Location Satellite Beach, FL Ride 2005 Rocket III Oct 1, 2015 #1 I'm getting ready to order a new rear tire so I want to be Pulled the boot off to actually see if I would be able to get the spline back in. After the lower pivot was free, I tried to yank the drive shaft out, but no success. Custom. Inspect the rear slip yoke splines on the drive shaft. Spline Lube Notes 2001 with 37,000 miles. THE BMW recommended Spline Lube for routine maintenance on drive shafts, input shafts, etc. I clean and lube those splines every 12K when I change the FD fluid. Now, inspect the fit by mating the drive shaft spline to the rear drive unit. The 1200s and later boxers have redesigned splines along with different pivot points (swing-arm pivot point as well I decided to change my final drive oil at half the recommended time schedule. 1. Slide out driveshaft with rear hub. Promo Code SAVE50. Clean the slip yoke splines with brake cleaner or equivalent and a shop towel. Our 2 bikes have never had the driveshaft splines lubed and her sister's probably Most driveshaft spline maintenance discussions center around the forward part of the driveshaft where it inserts into the universal joint at the forward part of the swingarm. Earlier this summer I had to beat the rear caliper bracket off of the caliper, clean/dress the sliding pins, lube and These forward driveshaft splines have had instances of no, or very little lube right from the factory, and also corrosion. 86VT700C In process of going over scoot and doing maintenance and repairs as needed. 2 valve K bike monolever final drive splines: Many owners recommend lubing these splines every time you replace the rear tire. If the splines dry out or begin to rust, shifting will get progressively worse, particularly downshifting. Properly sized Spicer u-joints that are adequately lubricated at recommended intervals will normally meet or exceed fleet operational requirements. 2 wheel drive or 4 wheel drive? Not doing this can cause serious problems and repairs. Forums. When I checked it the last time (11,000 miles) the color was more blackish and there was less lube on the splines. - Rear half of drive shaft/final drive HOW OFTEN SHOULD I LUBE MY SPLINES? These splines must be lubricated. The final drive input shaft slides in and out of the rear end of the driveshaft slightly as the rear suspension extends and compresses. The fit should be tight, but loose enough to get the splines together and apart without being sloppily loose. Can I use the grease out of my grease gun, or do I need to use something else? How to do a "shaft spline lube" on a monolever K100/K75 So you've bought yourself one of those silly BMW motorcycles with water cooling, more than one cylinder and a lovely maintenance free shaft drive that people on the Internet rave about. Thanks for the help. Rear shaft on 4x4 does not use grease as it can contaminate the transfer case fluid and cause damage. The input shaft splines are nested inside the center of the clutch disk. At least three key characteristics are important: 1) Anti-wear to protect against the sliding action of the splines. The Recommended Synthetic Gear Oils; AMSOil AGL 75w 90 Mobil 1 75w 90 Valvoline 75w 342 Posts #3 Apr 19, 2018. Drain the final drive oil -- avoids oil spilling, & should Post: #46. Drive shaft spline wear on the hexheads can occur at the FD input when water gets where it doesn't belong. 7 Posts . Mine was torn and the lube was leaking out past it. In my opinion most moly pastes lack certain key characteristics necessary for clutch and driveshaft splines. Lube it yourself if not under warranty. Spline lube and replacing the final drive oil will complete my 20K service. 1 of 11 Go to page. Another approach would be to do them every In the maintenance section it says to lubricate the drive shaft/impeller spline yearly for my '15 GTI 155. The amount of wear is easy to see here, as this motorcycle had the available wider rear hub spacer spacer; so a very narrow amount of the spline length appears to not be worn at all. :evil: Remove rear wheel, (see owners manual) Remove the three chrome 'acorn' nuts on driveshaft tube. PianoVs worn final drive splines. This particular motorcycle is returning to the stock 4.00-18 If kept The drives kits I have sold Only 3 of the 14 kits I have put together had enough lube on the drive end (When I bought the drives and disassembled)- Is it covered in this great post for nose cone oil where it reads to lubricate the drive shaft spline? The rear portion of the shaft is lubed with the final drive lube, so there is no need to pull the shaft from the final drive unit to lube that portion. 01-11-2020, 01:08 PM . Upon inspection the rear shaft spline (female) and rear drive spline (male) still had lube on all surfaces, and there was no evidence of dryness. Ford has a new TSB to replace the drive shaft if under service warranty. Do not use grease on the newer (2007+up) 4x4 1500 trucks, as there is no This should be done any time the tire or wheel is replaced. It look like once you have removed the rear drive to lube the spline the driveshaft "pulls out" with a tug to grease/inspect both ends of the drive shaft. Inadequate lube cycles, and failure to lubricate the U-joints and slip splines properly, will not only cause premature U-joint kit failures, but may lead to other problems, such as slip spline seizures. This is a rather tricky subject, as the lubrication requirements of splines are very different from gears or bearings. Drive shaft and final gear maintenance. That's a good reason to keep the splines lubricated. Besides greatly reducing both transmission input splines wear and clutch disc splines wear from rusting & helping with such as fretting corrosion; cleaning & re-lubrication of the transmission input shaft splines will give you a much smoother clutch and much nicer shifting. 4 wheel drive, no grease unless its for the front shaft, in which the front shaft will use GM 19257121. That it why it is suggested you follow Warchilds above article every once and a Have watched all the youtube vids and scoured the forum - but just want to check! There isn't a hard and fast answer to this one other than "enough to minimize the wear." The job was to lube the spline where it slides into the collar on the drive shaft, an area that gets lots of movement in and out as the rear suspension goes up and down, creating a ton of heat and potential wear of the teeth on the spline and collar. Clean and lube the front splines & clean the rear splines and lube seal #2. Takes about 45 minutes and easy to do. The horror story about dry splines made me do it ! Lube of the drive end of the drive shaft is more complicated. I've seen some doo's where there is a zerk fitting around the drive shaft but can't find one for the life of me. Next Last. The rear spline I use a wide blade screwdriver and a couple taps of a hammer to push the seal off. Wound up applying TS-60 spline lube. Relubrication at recommended intervals (see chart below) flushes abrasive contaminants from the U-joints and slip components, helping to optimize the life of the driveshaft. Then you did a little reading and found that this maintenance free shaft drive is not quite so maintenance free. Also, a shaft drive bike will have splines on each end of the drive shaft, and on a large ring which transmits the power to the rear wheel. Put 19mm hex tool in vise, slide on rear hub with axle vertical. I found that Mobile Super Syn grease was the exact same color and consistency as that already on the front splines from the factory. Well, apparently, someone was sleeping at the factory between about 2000 and 2006 as the largest sampling of our bikes that Inadequate lube cycles, and failure to lubricate the u-joints and slip splines properly, will not only cause premature u-joint kit (to open room for grease) using bar 3) Cushioning to protect the metal against the power pulses as the engine runs (fretting corrosion). Container holds 400 grams (14.1 oz.) That causes rust/oxidation. Previous spline lube was 28,000 Did the spline lube again yesterday and learned a couple of new things. Lots of reading indicates that this is a more commonly neglected task, possibly as little information is made available from the manuals. 2) Anti-corrosion to protect against oxidation. This is instructions and locations to lubricate the drive shaft and final gear drive. Assure the yoke is free of rust or other foreign material. 1; 2; 3 Go to page. Being new to bike, purchased last April, and not knowing what PO did concerning up keep I wanted to go over MrVvrroomm Member: The wider spacer is used to accommodate a 120 size rear tire. Here's Rays cut at lubing the back end - based on his write-up - edited By Silverback for space considerations: Caution - can be dangerous - proceed at your own risk, etc, etc, etc. The stickler is you are gonna Spline lube is pretty standard think that has been in all of the clutch kits I have purchased until now. This is the best grease to get if you have the clunk and don't have access to Ford's White Color High Teflon In brief, the rear end of the driveshaft mates to the input shaft of the final drive via splines. Thread starter Busaboy; Start date Oct 1, 2015; Home. Gear Oil. This spline lube available at Ted Porter's BeemerShop. Much of the remaining lube was still greyish in color. PianoVs worn coupling. Lack of proper lubrication is the most common cause of premature failure in u-joint kits and slip assemblies. Does it need to be compatable with the transmission fluid? The zoom clutch kit that I just returned had a small packet Meanwhile I will put a grease gun to them myself. You probably can't do it too often though. Checking back on the service docket, I can find no mention of driveshaft sliding spline or universal joint lubrication mentioned on the long checklist of items supposedly serviced. Busaboy.040 Over. Newly built drive shafts have thicker Nickel Coating on Drive Shaft splines and transmission output shaft receivers. We have 40K on ours and her sister has 55K on hers. Tonight I pull the shock, level the swingarm, and try again. My wife and I have 2013 & 2014 R1200R naked bikes, her sister owns a 2010 R1200R. 244 Posts . (watch vent hole upper inside of hub, for drips) Compress driveshaft fully against spring in hub. 4th of July SPLINE LUBE Pictures and Write-up by BMW Larry. It should feel tight and not loose in a side Go. It is a high load, long-term lubricant that resists water washout. $50 OFF parts and accessory orders over $299. As marc said. I intend to raise this with the service department of the dealership at the next service. Driveshaft Spline Lube. While you have the rear drive unit off check the swingarm for any looseness in the swingarm bearings by grabbing the swingarm and wriggling it side to side. The more I touch on this bike, the more I find that was corroded and rusted, which I find quite shocking actually. I am getting ready to lube the drive shaft splines to get rid of the "clunking" sound when I stop. Bit of a General Tech Talk . Many people assume all components are 'greased for life' these Ray Major. 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