It’s funny because I think that most of the risks people warn about for littermates could be applied to any multi-dog household, especially when new dogs are adopted at the same time. We recently bought two golden retriever puppies and just today someone suggested that we rehome one of them because of litter mate syndrome. This is a huge endeavor, but it is the only way to prevent the problems that would occur otherwise. Thanks for sharing this, Bethany That’s so sweet. They are from different litters but are 5 days apart. Any idea how I can break him of these. I did a lot of research ahead of time and have been putting in the work — separate crates, separate walks, independent play time, separate training sessions — but the articles have me pretty paranoid. I don’t have to worry, when I leave home, that they’re neurotically missing me. My son wants me to keep the dogs. Even if you don’t think you need one, hire one anyway. There has been controversy over “dogs off leash” but the USFS has NO leash law in affect out on the trail (at least, not in the undeveloped areas). I researched it a little more and decided that they were all over reacting. Sorry about that, Deirdre – I responded to the wrong comment. So gorgeous. Thank you so much for this positive aspect. I have four dogs, two sets of littermates. The second 6 weeks I had a trainer come to the house. They have never more than growled at each other (they’re 2 yrs old, fixed) and they get lots of exercise (they go with me & the horse on the trail & can run up to 20 miles in a day!) They are all great, all independent from each other, and all well adjusted. But, we noticed they started playing more rough than usual. So I’ve only started really separating them this week and I think it’s too soon to tell how it’s going and decide if I made the right choice. They’re crated separately, potty trained separately, fed separately, and have play time/walks separately as well as together. That’s not to say it doesn’t exist, but think that our willingness to work with a trainer with all of our dogs eliminated any issues. Congrats on the puppies!!! It’s hard work, but soooooo much fun. Oops, didn’t mean to put a question mark after that first sentence. i have been researching how to raise siblings and now i am freaking out. can’t wait to sleep come September. Mild cases are barely noticeable, while severe cases can lead to constant fighting, separation anxiety from each other, and even in some cases, aggression towards humans. You can't train them together, so that has to be expensive – actually, we did train our littermates together. We are starting to take them on seperate walks & trips to the store. The adult dogs don't fight with the puppies; there are warnings and corrections, but no fights. I also know many people have and are raising littermates that are happy, healthy, well-socialized dogs. Once I showed them “I got this,” they settled down. The first dog we got when he was 8wks and we have had him since then. As far as solo activities, one thing that I do year around is to take one dog with me when I run errands. However, thinking about the death of one mate and the welfare of the surviving mate has me pretty worried for the future of our girl. When training we have to either lock one in another room or someone has to hold one to restrain it, but that is the same with dogs in the same home with an age gap! At first I wasn’t too happy with getting both of them because I had read online about all of the problems that you can have with littermates. However, we would not allow her to focus on missing him,we took her for walks and got her moving to play and took her for rides. My Rat terrier slept with me from the day I brought her home, but with these two, we decided to put them in a sleep pen at night until they get a bit older. We have been inadvertently following your reccomendations on raising the pups. Both sets of our littermates were altered at 6 months too. I think people who have difficulty with littermates simply bit off more than they could chew. they do go to a doggy day care 3 days a week. We now have litter mate brothers to bring our dog total to 4. We hired a private, positive based trainer (who came highly recommended) for Rodrigo and Sydney and it didn't cost much. To attest to their happy, litter mate quality of life, my mom’s husky lived to 15 (taken by cancer) and my brother’s girl left us peacefully just one month before her 18th birthday. Coyotes don’t come on our property anymore . We recently lost our beloved 14 year old and when looking for a new puppy we came upon a breeder with two dogs available – my husband really wanted one while I really wanted the other. Pet stores allow dogs and in our town, Home Depot allows dogs too. My first set of littermates are now 9 years old and I still work on training with them. We switched off with our puppies during class. Sometimes littermate syndrome can take the form of non-stop fighting between the dogs. I have had SO many people tell me that the breeder should not have sold them both to us etc etc. Chihuahua mix, was picked up as a stray when he was about six months old. I’m, afraid I will miss the sign and N will really be hurt. I’m behind too – 150 blog posts behind. Now I let them play together more often; I let my daughter run them around the yard together but I still feed them in separate pens. We were sure to socialize them with humans the first few weeks we had them- we took them everywhere and they had contact with at least 100 humans before they were 12 weeks old so they love people! And then there are the repeated rashes and ear infections prior to transitioning to raw. My fiancee and I have reserved two french bulldogs from the same litter (Brothers) one is shy and one is hyper. The only problem I have noticed is they don’t like other dogs except their older fur sister (no relation) We also already walk them separately so I’m hoping that is helping. She is a bit timid when out anyway which is why the socialisation is crucial for them, but she is better than her sibling at walks alone. I would like to be prepared in case anything happens . Littermates isn’t for every family and not every pair of puppies will turn out as well as our two sets have turned out. Our boy, Scout, was twice the size we expected and if I had known he was going to grow so much, I would have left him intact for 6 months longer. We keep them separate and all is well. Well these breeds are already known for their anxiety. Unlike many people, I never separated them when they slept – that’s just a personal choice. Sounds like you’re doing fine, Nancy. My dogs are happy, healthy and well adjusted. They do fight a bit when we pick them up together or if they are in their pet carrier lately. Already have two female standard poodle litter mates that are 11 weeks old and feel things are going pretty good. I’m glad my posts are helping people. Best of luck with your trainer. We absolutely love them, and they love us, but they have some really big problems. I love hearing success stories with dogs. But we haven’t noticed any health issues, so I’m not kicking myself about it. I love that. AND, REMEMBER YOU ARE THE PACK LEADER. We are older now and have been worried we might be overwhelmed but after reading the posts in this blog and knowing how much we give to our pets I am feeling more optimistic. You’ll be amazed at the difference it makes. Thank you so much for you post. I had never heard of littermate syndrome before and have spent the better part of the day in tears thinking i must have made the worst decision ever. My worry was that someone would see that they’re intack and steal them away to breed. nipped it in the tail and all seems to be well. So reading your article was incredibly reassuring that it can turn out well. They are very good socially with other dogs. I’d never even heard of it but we’ve had these puppies since they were seven weeks old and I can’t imagine having to choose one to rehome, especially having lost both of our older dogs just this summer. We haven’t started yet. We started with very inexpensive liver treats and yogurt treats and transitioned when they got older to play games like fetch or treat in puzzle toy. The benefit of working with a trainer is that they can not only explain your dogs’ behavior, but they can watch how you interact with your dog and give you tips, because they can see things that you can’t see. You’ll hear a growl out of the female every now and then when she gets annoyed with the male, but that’s it. I did spay and neuter all of our dogs, because I don’t want them to have puppies. But the first few trainers I interacted with were mortified that I adopted littermates and three at that and I can’t have anyone in my home with that negativity because I don’t want that to channel into my pups. We have taken them to 2 puppy classes so far and the female is very timid there. Our dogs love routine and the more I can keep them at a routine the better they behave. All of our dogs sleep in the house and they each have their favorite spot. Most people back off when they see that you have a genuine love for your dogs and want to see them happy and healthy. I don’t understand the term “Littermate Syndrome”. I have had many dogs over decades and bred collies and dachshunds and never experienced this. That was news to me, but it definitely made sense. I’m not pushing for people to adopt littermates, instead, I’m sharing our experience. The females boss the male around just a bit but he is very protective of them. YOU MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH EVERY DOG; BUT TRAIN THEM SEPARATELY. I’m not against adopting a dog in need of a good loving home. They follow me everywhere, unless I remember to close the stair gate! I was dreading having to tackle the issues but after reading so many positive experiences, I feel secure that as long as we do our part, they’ll be the best pack that they can be. Or, sometimes we played with them 10-15′ apart. Not far, just a couple of feet at a time. But we did it! We decided we wanted to get two (one for each of us) So 2 weeks ago we found a Min pin breeder and we got two baby girls from the same litter. They are 10 weeks old brother and sister and they fight constantly but I’m just assuming that’s due to their age. Now that your two are two years old can you give me some advice or encouragement? We’re committed to both dogs and making this a successful home. I would love to share my success stories with you and exchange ideas and thoughts in E-mails! THE BEST TIPS TO PREVENT LITTERMATE SYNDROME WHEN RAISING TWO PUPPIES. Oh I do too. Opie looks and acts more like their Mom, and Bella is just like Dad, tea cup Yorkie. 2 years ago despite reading horrifying information online, i got two puppies. Outside of Littermate Syndrome, training two dogs is at least twice the work. They always have each other for entertainment! Toby died of cancer last year and that was rough on Prince. Friends who have one dog and introduced a 2nd introduced the dogs at a park or a friend’s house to see how they did with each other. We love our pups already so much. Also, don’t forget that’s dogs are pack animals and do better with company of another dog or pet. We had to leave her alone for about 5 hours one of the days he was hospitalized. Thank you for the tips and positive perspectives! I still take my dogs to classes and on play dates. So I thought I’d share our experience, which hasn’t been easy. We just got 2 standard poodle puppies. So glad I found your site! They’re a good mix and I have a few friends who have dogs that are a good addition to our pack. The easiest way to prevent littermate syndrome is to only take one puppy at a time. They are so loving and adorable, and it would kill me to have to get rid of one of them. This blog post was originally published in November 2012; it has been updated with new information. Dogs who are unrelated cause more fights because they are what Temple refers to as a “Forced Pack” (which is unrelated canids stuck together); the dogs have to come up with some form of hierarchy and then they have to all act accordingly in their agreement to keep the peace-and that too was definitely true. We are planning to have them sleep apart in their own kennels. I am not a dog trainer or behaviorist. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. I have read all the warnings about two puppies and littermate syndrome and have been feeling some anxiety but then read Kimberly’s words, “It only took 2 people being excited about the idea to convince me to go for it. This piqued my interest and was met with some skepticism as it was something that I had never come across in my years of study and practice in the field of veterinary behaviour. Their mother was raised with her litter mate and their owners haven’t had any problems either. I’m only 16, so I don’t have a lot say in this. Cooper was returned to the rescue agency as “damaged goods” (he broke, and subsequently lost, a front leg). Female more outgoing(murphy) , male (Cooper) more reserved. They are now 4 1/2 months old and have clearly bonded to us as much as they have to each other. It hit me hard, and my Mother and I decided to get another dog very soon after. Just separate crates, or separate parts of the house? Any advice you have would be greatly appreciated. We made sure to give them lots of separate attention since we rescued them. It can be overwhelming at times, but it’s going to be fun too. Yes, it is difficult to train them together, and I do credit Cooper’s original family with “helping” in that regard, since they had him during the housebreaking months. Rihanna tends to hang out with me; she is a bit stand offish but she socializes with the other dogs very well. The idea of not having Sydney or Zoey in our family is depressing. I was considering picking up littermates before I picked up my first dog, Linus from the animal shelter. i will continue visiting the site/blog as we progress in training them as i may need to ask you all for help all the best-. I read putting them in their crates as ” punishment” wasn’t good because you want their crate to be a good place, but separating them is all I know to do. Do I just let them fight it out? We have 2 dogs that are almost 5 years old and they are littermates. They are no longer coming when we call them and are having lots of accidents in the house regardless of our previous progress. I think littermate syndrome has more to do with people biting off more than they can chew when they bring home two puppies; not understanding how much work is involved. I know what you mean about nipping problems in the bud. She starts fights with her brother and becomes grumpy and growls – even when we pick her up! I don’t know how they’d do without each other and I know that people say that we should keep them apart, but I happen to like that our dogs love being with each other. Some ignore the budget for food and health care of our pets before adopting, then they fall into issues. Hi guys, I just found out about littermates syndrome and it got my attention immediately. She would lay around and not show much of her character we are used to. They are Golden Retrievers named Fletch and Teddy. My daughter taught them how to shake and lay down. I like your advice on getting a trainer and will start looking into it. I would love to talk to you about littermates if you’re ever interested. They play and the older two have slimmed down. Instead, I allow them to determine when they need space. I’m just not sure if we have to separate them to sleep at night or if it will be ok if we do alot of things with them separately but let them sleep together at night? Working with someone who didn't judge us and who saw how much we loved our dogs was amazing. They don’t look related. The number of articles that advise that the only thing to do is remove one of the dogs makes me wonder if the “experts” are dog lovers at all. That was the first step to our success. They are both males, and they “wrestle and rumble” together, but that is not fighting. We’re 2 peas in a pod. I’d love some advice from you on what you think about the crating/non-crating issue, and when we can stop worrying about possible agression issues? I’m glad that I have researched about it and I am working on separating my two labs more. After 2 sessions at puppy school the bitch will now come out from hiding under a chair at the class, but at home or out she can sit, down and walk to heel on command. If I could get paid to raise puppies for … I think with everything dogs, it’s all about education; we need to do more sharing and less scare tactics. I have been reading all these articles about the littermate-syndrome. The only trouble I have now is convincing strangers that NO my dogs don’t want to play with your dog. I can’t find these types of guidelines anywhere. Thank You, Scout and Zoey attended the PetSmart puppy class, which was an amazing experience. What a wonderful website i’ve found! You can search the Association of Professional Dog Trainers: http://www.apdt.com. Rodrigo and Sydney turned 9 in March. You can get recommendations at your local pet store, doggy day care, or veterinarian’s office. People like YOU make me feel great about writing so much about my own experience. Kimberly, thank you for this article, and for all the positive stories about littermates that are in the comments. Any thoughts on that? grateful for a positive take on raising siblings, there is a lot of negative out there. They are fed together and have treats at the same time. We have done everything that has been suggested and it has made all the difference in the world. How to raise two puppies successfully -- from different litters OR the same litter. Thanks for letting me share my feedback. Kimberly Gauthier, Dog Nutrition Blogger and Raw Feeder in Marysville, Washington, https://keepthetailwagging.com/top-10-books-for-dog-lovers-in-2015/, https://www.keepthetailwagging.com/ewegurt, https://www.keepthetailwagging.com/cbdoil, http://spanishmastiff.blogspot.com/2015/09/siblings-revisited.html, Why December is the Best Time to Buy Essential Oils. Scout and Zoey have never fought. What are your thoughts on leaving the puppies together alone in a pen vs keeping them in separate pens when we are gone to work and other lengthier periods of time? We have not regretted our decision to take both and enjoy our time working and playing with them. But I feel like I need to have a plan even so. If you have friends with dogs, take them all on a pack walk on a regular schedule. I know for some that it’s the only option, but for us, we worked hard to make it work and it really was all about training ourselves. I think you need to be experienced, and you need to ignore the myths. Prince was depressed and felt lost for awhile after his brother died but he has adjusted. 4 week old mixed breed puppies all snuggled up on Tena’s lap! I’m willing to do that if its in their best interest, but I’m not convinced that it is… Also, to what extent do I need to separate them? When we lost Blue, our littermates were depressed, because they loved Blue, we all did. The only separating we did was with Rodrigo and Sydney. The only time we separated them was when one was playful and the other was trying to sleep. (I’m behind and trying to at least catch up a little on my backlog of reading.). Maybe something high value was left out or we created a frustrating situation for them. I took it all in stride because we've been judged for our choice many times. We are not sure if that’ s a playful fight or a serious scuffle. Mrs and Mrs Felix. When they both play, my wife and I are invisible to them. Please do not use content from this blog in place of veterinarian care. It’s hard to tell where the line is being crossed between playing and fighting.. One of them is very good at being in a crate at night and almost never cries but the other is not loving the crating situation. Pups alone are hard and taking on 2 everyone thinks we are crazy. I have to say that reading these stories has given me some comfort knowing it can work with littermates, not just the horror stories, makes me feel that we can make it work as well. Littermate syndrome is not going to happen to every single pair of puppies that are raised together. And you need to be extra vigilant about training sibling pups to establish their independence. The only thing I would recommend is puppy training classes. "Littermate Syndrome" refers to any undesired behavior expressed by a pet (usually a dog) that was raised with another animal from its own litter. I’m involved at the National level. That was truly the important step, being a leader in our home. Thanks for your time. I can’t tell you how many times people have tried to scare me away from various things by stating an opinion as fact. Many breeders, dog trainers, and animal behaviorist believe that littermates…. We bought two GSD puppies from the same litter when they were 10wks old – one boy and girl – they are now 13wks old. Would you agree? We are going to slowly transition their crates further apart until their dog can stay in their room, and mine in my room. Always supervising them eliminated these issues quickly. So we are really concerned, anxious about what’s coming and how our little family will cope. I feel almost like a leper with the comments that so called experts make for having siblings. I chose to save a fourth life because no one wanted that poor puppy so I took her in and I would imagine that a dog trainer would understand that. Rodrigo and Sydney mourned when we lost Blue and when Sydney was resting because of her cruciate, she would cry when J took Rigo for a walk without her. Maybe we just have a way with dogs that helped us succeed with our pack. They would whine when they were not together, they barked when they were not together, and then I learned about littermate syndrome which I had not heard about till then. by Tena Parker | Dec 22, 2016 | Dog Behavior, Fearful Dog, Positive Training, Puppy Fun, Reactivity, Socialization, Training | 0 comments, Oswin and her littermate playing at 9 weeks old. He’s home now and all is good again, but we are not sure how short lived this will be and we are now contemplating the future and what we should expect. But whatever the case, I think we'll adopt littermates again and again. My fiancé and I just recently adopted litter mates, they are 9 weeks today and we haven’t seen any signs of littermate syndrome. If they were to break into a fight what do you most recommend to prevent future fights? I believe they are just as bonded to us as they are each other. We know both parents as well. Also, did you spay/neuter your entire pack? Barking and going crazy. Crate separately - Crate your puppies separately at night. Another great product is CBD-Hemp oil (https://www.keepthetailwagging.com/cbdoil), which also helps relieve anxiousness. . Thanks!! Although they enjoy each other's company (we are a family), they are independent within their family too. Thanks so much!! That’s what I was planning to do but then I wondered if they should have separate (adjacent) crates right from the start. Our dogs get along great. I just got two mini goldendoodles who are sisters. Thanks Kim for the follow-up. Hi! 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